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	<title>Comments on: screenwriting &#8211; the mathematical approach!</title>
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		<title>By: Phil Gladwin</title>
		<link>http://www.script-consultant.co.uk/2010/01/20/screenwriting-mathematical-approach/comment-page-1/#comment-16833</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Gladwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 09:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Philip, 

Just browsing around - couldn&#039;t help but comment - I remember the guilt with which I first started using a spreadsheet to storyline my new scripts - and then the sneaking realisation that a lot of story editors and other writers did the same - and then, of course, it&#039;s very similar in principle to having a mass of index cards pinned to a corkboard - and much easier to work with. 

I ended up developing my own reasonably complex spreadsheet that has slots for all sorts of story beats,  act breaks, different character stories - and I&#039;ve used it all all stages of the storylining process, and in between drafts to check everything is in a sensible place - on everything I&#039;ve written since probably 2003. Overall, with the caveat that you are prepared to throw away large chunks of it if you have a better idea, I would strongly recommend some version of this for every writer&#039;s process.

Would be fascinated to see your diagrams of other shows - I bet there is a massive commonality underlying them all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Philip, </p>
<p>Just browsing around &#8211; couldn&#8217;t help but comment &#8211; I remember the guilt with which I first started using a spreadsheet to storyline my new scripts &#8211; and then the sneaking realisation that a lot of story editors and other writers did the same &#8211; and then, of course, it&#8217;s very similar in principle to having a mass of index cards pinned to a corkboard &#8211; and much easier to work with. </p>
<p>I ended up developing my own reasonably complex spreadsheet that has slots for all sorts of story beats,  act breaks, different character stories &#8211; and I&#8217;ve used it all all stages of the storylining process, and in between drafts to check everything is in a sensible place &#8211; on everything I&#8217;ve written since probably 2003. Overall, with the caveat that you are prepared to throw away large chunks of it if you have a better idea, I would strongly recommend some version of this for every writer&#8217;s process.</p>
<p>Would be fascinated to see your diagrams of other shows &#8211; I bet there is a massive commonality underlying them all.</p>
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		<title>By: laurence timms</title>
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		<dc:creator>laurence timms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 11:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was half-joking about the diagram idea; I think they can be interesting when trying to analyse the finished product. Check out XKCD&#039;s take on movie narrative charts (http://xkcd.com/657/) - my favourite is the one for Primer, which cracked me up.

Personally I&#039;d love to see diagrams of WtD, Silent Witness, Wallander from your point of view. Shorter shows like Hustle, Casualty and Spooks probably also have a kind of base DNA that could be decoded to show their fundamental structure.

I&#039;d never take this approach when writing something completely new but it might be helpful when briefing new writers on these existing shows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was half-joking about the diagram idea; I think they can be interesting when trying to analyse the finished product. Check out XKCD&#8217;s take on movie narrative charts (<a href="http://xkcd.com/657/" rel="nofollow">http://xkcd.com/657/</a>) &#8211; my favourite is the one for Primer, which cracked me up.</p>
<p>Personally I&#8217;d love to see diagrams of WtD, Silent Witness, Wallander from your point of view. Shorter shows like Hustle, Casualty and Spooks probably also have a kind of base DNA that could be decoded to show their fundamental structure.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d never take this approach when writing something completely new but it might be helpful when briefing new writers on these existing shows.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 10:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Laurence,

Well no I certainly wouldn&#039;t recommend a diagram of the story as an essential script pre-requisite! But I do think that certain stories - particularly those 2 hour &#039;long-form&#039; TV investigative stories, like Waking The Dead, Silent Witness, Wallander, etc.  - lend themselves to this approach, in their tricky combination of regular \ investigative characters, guest \ antagonist characters, serial story elements and complex, gradually unfolding investigative plots. Perhaps my next blog should be story &#039;diagrams&#039; of certain shows, although it may be something of a challenge for my limited computer skills...!

Philip Shelley
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Laurence,</p>
<p>Well no I certainly wouldn&#8217;t recommend a diagram of the story as an essential script pre-requisite! But I do think that certain stories &#8211; particularly those 2 hour &#8216;long-form&#8217; TV investigative stories, like Waking The Dead, Silent Witness, Wallander, etc.  &#8211; lend themselves to this approach, in their tricky combination of regular \ investigative characters, guest \ antagonist characters, serial story elements and complex, gradually unfolding investigative plots. Perhaps my next blog should be story &#8216;diagrams&#8217; of certain shows, although it may be something of a challenge for my limited computer skills&#8230;!</p>
<p>Philip Shelley<br />
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		<title>By: laurence timms</title>
		<link>http://www.script-consultant.co.uk/2010/01/20/screenwriting-mathematical-approach/comment-page-1/#comment-128</link>
		<dc:creator>laurence timms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 21:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a weird hybrid of scriptwriter and computer programmer, and there is certainly some kind of truth in this. Interestingly different programmers exhibit a different &#039;voice&#039; in how they write their code, just like scriptwriters.

Actually, it&#039;s not *that* interesting, but it gets a laugh at parties.

Would you advise writers to create a diagram of their script *before* the first draft, though...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a weird hybrid of scriptwriter and computer programmer, and there is certainly some kind of truth in this. Interestingly different programmers exhibit a different &#8216;voice&#8217; in how they write their code, just like scriptwriters.</p>
<p>Actually, it&#8217;s not *that* interesting, but it gets a laugh at parties.</p>
<p>Would you advise writers to create a diagram of their script *before* the first draft, though&#8230;?</p>
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